One entry level 30-30, more expensive Texas Deluxe 30-30 and a 45-70. Truly the ultimate choice for big game out to long range, it's the latest ballistic achievement . Fit and finish is solid, accuracy is very good, 500+ rounds through both rifles with NO malfunctions shooting everything from standard CCI, Remington Golden Bullet, Federal bulk,Winchester X, and CCI Mini-Mag. I have a Marlin 1881 45-70 made in 1885 full length tube and 2 1895S that were made in the early 1980s and 1 1895 with full tube made around early 2000s. Therefore, FG moved the crap equipment and left most of the craftsmen behind. Well, Remington was EXPECTED to produce a rifle that was true to the fit and finish and accuracy of pre-Remlin Marlins. And theres no excuse for sticking that in a box and shipping it down the line to an end user. "My goal is a cartridge with a flex-tip bullet that performs at .30-06 levels," he said. Dont buy a new Marlin, I just received a model 1895 at my FFL dealers, and I refused delivery of it, it is a POS. My Marlin 1895 XLR in .45-70 can put 5 rounds through a single jagged hole at 50 yards with a 2-7 power Leupold scope using the 325 grain LeverEvolution ammo. To answer Christines question NO! Decided that Id go ahead any but have avoided lots of problems to check here first. Remington does not even work the actions to see if they function and Im here to tell you I just saw this. LMI Firearms - Ammo They said I was insulting people. I bought an 1894 .45 Colt with a round barrel from the Dundee, MI Cabelas (the round barrel .45 Colt Marlins were a limited offering sold exclusively through Cabelas) whose serial number indicates 2010 manufacture, and it also has the REP proof mark on the barrel. Make sure to watch till the end. So, in terms of killing power, the .338 Marlin Express is a 200 yard elk cartridge and a 300 yard deer cartridge with the Hornady 200 grain flat point bullet at a MV of 2400 fps. Looks like its another two years till I get one. Several current variations of the 336 are available. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. I can get used to how it loads. There are carbine versions with barrels as short as 18. . For the guy asking about the 38/357s, I have a Winchester model 94 thats a good shooter, though Im not sure they are still in production? forcing Henry to get even better. Dave promptly parlayed this work on traditional lever-action rounds into new cartridges. You can now honestly say that you have a one of a kind, hand crafted firearm in you possession. Congratulations Marlin! This really is a nice piece of hardware and easy to strip down as well. Used. Read them for yourself to judge. Extensive loading data for the .338 Marlin Express is not yet available. Why of course I said why? Only Marlin I still have is a .22 mag bolt action rifle that I cant shoot because theres no ammo available. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. My father bought a Winchester 94 in 30-30 when I was kid and after one range session with it he sold it and went back to his old Marlin 336. At my shop we will no longer carry any new made rifle from any of these three. Marlin is sending a pre-paid label to my FFL, who must go through the hassle of FedEx pickup, etc. For 1860, the Henry was a mechanical marvel; For 2014, they would be disastersdangerous, weak, heavy, and fragile. The 39A is a true thing of beauty and my pride and joy. One is a 22 barrel and I can easily shoot 1.5 inch groups with iron sights at 100 yards with LeveRevelution ammunition. Front sight was canted to the right, checkering on butt stock looked like someone sanded it down to nothing ( nearly nonexistent ), chip in the forearm, dent in the pistol grip cap, weak rifling, should be Ballard type rifling as advertised, it actually looks like microgroove rifling, Metal finish was subpar, and wood to metal finish was also bad. Anyway, comparing the older rifle to the newer one further reinforces my belief that Remington really lost their way with the Marlin brand. By the way, did you see last years Remington catalog trying to get everyone to hunt with a camo-coated AR rifles? At 300 yards, the .308 ME drops roughly seven inches, the .338 ME drops eight. They had no drawings, so if you think about it each gun was practically hand built hence the slickness of the older rifles actions. Cheaper, good fit and finish (not great or perfect). Still waiting, hoping for the day we can trust the Marlin name again. If they hadnt had their heads buried in their own posteriors, they would have suspended production until they had proper engineering drawings and had ensured that the equipment they had moved to Ilion was now operating in spec. .308 Marlin Express.308 Winchester.338 Lapua Magnum.338 Marlin Express.338 Winchester Magnum.35 Remington.35 Whelen.350 Legend.375 H&H Magnum.375 Ruger As far as Volcanic being a first, thats not rightJennings made some rocket-ball lever rifles before Volcanic came into being, and the first Volcanics were actually made by and branded as Smith & Wessons, both rifles and pistols in .31 and .41 caliber, brass or iron frames. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The action was not smooth and the components seemed poorly fitted and crafted. Rifle Ammo for Sale Online | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. I assured them neither and agreed to send them back the guns but didnt want a part replaced and I would end up with the same problem. Took it off the wall to get a closer look because I had just run across this very article the other day. When I wasnt looking someone stoled. I returned the rifle to marlin again requesting they fix it. In some ways, the .338 Marlin Express is a one load gun. This is probably one of the greatest advances in lever action rifles due to their tubular magazines. But then again the 1860 design had ergonomic flaws the magazine loading instead of the loading gate. It would certainly sell. Bought it mostly for my kids, but its mine now. They got even more angry. Only after we fully warn the customer that is, because it is now like winning 50$ off a scratch ticket, 1 in 50 is a winner. The reason the Remington people now own and manufacture Marlins. Soon after Marlin discovered in 1972 that the Model 336 action would handle the .45-70, .444 Marlin sales began a gradual decline. MY experience, with a Remlin built in 2016, was that I had to put significant time and money into it AFTER I bought it before it was fit to take to the range.and I STILL have to replace a factory part on it so that it can be actually loaded through the loading gate. Based loosely on the .376 Steyr cartridge, the new .338 Marlin Express hull carries a new Hornady 200-grain Flex-Tip bullet. Its generally a 3-4 MOA rifle. I purchased a new marlin 1895 SBL in the spring of 2014. Total POS. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The chronograph shows it has plenty of pep, too. Oh, yeah, a company the made the first practical and commercially successful lever-action repeating rifle in 1860 has no heritage. Beretta released its PX4 Storm line in the 1990s without much fanfare, but it since has developed something of a cult-like following. I have one Marlin, a 795, great little rifle, manufactured long before the move. I hope it The fools running that board were so blind to the defects of the latest marlin rifles that they wouldnt believe their own eyes per my video. Also have a brass Henry Big Boy. (I have since rectified the problem my throwing dollars at bulk buys, and I have enough .308 to last me for a considerable while now.). WhenThe Freedom Group bought Marlin, when the storied brand fell from grace like a rock dropped off the the Golden Gate Bridge, TTAG was there . Freedom group didnt want to pay their higher salaries, and in the transition to cheaper labor threw away the name and quality. TTAG says, Back in the day, you had to read a gun review very carefully to pick-up any hint that a firearm was a POS.Thankfully, internet gun forums arrived to end the information blackout. Yes, an experienced machinist can make ONE widget with no drawings, by writing his calculations and dimensions on an envelope. You are using an out of date browser. 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Ruger No. The loading tube is unconventional, yes, but fairly quick and efficient when you get the hang of it. Very Good . Thats because Bass Pro Shops in Dania Florida/Ft. The Marlin 308MXLR 308 MXLR Lever Action Rifle in .308 Marlin Express features a 24-inch stainless steel barrel with 1-12 rifling, stainless steel finish, black and gray laminated hardwood stock with pistol grip, front bead sight, rear semi-buckhorn folding sight, nickel plated sling swivel studs. "The .35 is just not a popular size," he told me after I suggested a super .358. The only changes Ive made to it is to add a Williams peep sight on the receiver, and a fiberoptic front sight of the right height to match the rear sight. Used to be a dozen would be in any gun store for right around $300. Good job! View Data View Sold Youre EXPECTED to brush your teeth every morning without being told to. This is simply crappy attention to detail. Im actually better informed by one magazine today, than I once was by 4 or 5 other magazines I no longer subscribe to. Oct 14, 2012. They can maybe come back, but do you think a management team that was able to make such a colossal string of blunders has the ability to salvage the name and win back customer trust? Working with their powder supplier, Hornady has achieved superior efficiency with the .308 Marlin, holding the MAP to 47,500 psi. 338 Marlin Express 200 gr FTX LEVERevolution Item #82240 | 20/Box US Patent: 9,513,092 | 8,443,729 | 8,413,587 | 7,380,502 LEVERevolution represents a breakthrough in ammo design for lever action rifles and revolvers. The rifling twist for almost all modern .338 cartridges is 1 turn in 10 inches, which should also be suitable for the .338 Marlin, although a 1 in 12 twist would probably also work well. Epic fail. Glad I ran across this site. However, for 2006 Federal Cartridge announced the introduction of their .338 Federal, based on the .308 Winchester case necked up to accept .338" diameter bullets. Type: Hunting. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. A 19 year-old mechanical or industrial technician in his first year or an Associates Degree program knows this after taking his first engineering drawing class. Pointed bullets resting against primers posed a hazard during recoil. Back in the day, youhad to read a gunreview very carefully to pick-up any hintthat afirearm was a POS. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? I dont get why I can buy a 336 in .30-30 at the Wal-Mart for $300 but have to search to find an 1894 in .357 which then costs me better than $900. Unfortunately for Marlin, right now Henry occupies the spot that Marlin used to. 308 Marlin Express 160 gr FTX LEVERevolution Item #82733 | 20/Box US Patent: 9,513,092 | 8,413,587 | 8,161,885 | 7,380,502. Let them rot, and sell all their gun companies to someone who gives a crap. Just four hours away, in Ilion, Remingtons factory had some open floor space where it could move Marlin, keep it autonomous fromRemington [! Was on the stiff side brand new. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. They sent me private emails and said I was the problem and was somehow trying to make the gun look bad. He wanted to drive a 200 grain flat point or round nose bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2400-2450 fps. That far off, a 180-grain .30-06 bullet started at 2,700 fps strikes 21 1/2 inches low. At 250 yards the velocity is 1507 fps and the energy is 1008 ft. lbs. Marlins saving grace will most likely come only from independence. I got the $2300 figure from their website, and I specifically noted that I was talking about the 1860 Henry reproduction, not their modern lever actions. .338 Federal Of henry off his web site the next morning he sent two emails, and had one of his distributor s call my gun guys shop. You can see from that picture that the magazine tube stud was severely misaligned with the barrel, sticking way out on one side. WOW, I went to three different gun stores and handled the model 336. At 200 yards the velocity is 1638 fps and the energy is 1191 ft. lbs. Im fortunate to be in that boat, but not everybody is; so THAT is why I warn people to carefully consider if they specifically want a Marlin, or do they just want a nice lever action rifle because there ARE alternatives, like Henry, for instance. No way. The bolt was smooth, trigger about 5lbs (a little heavy for a Marlin, but not bad at all.) While millennials may not be as brand-faithful as previous generations, by the same token they may not be as brand-rejecting as previous generations. This round was designed with an elastomer tip, so that the .338 projectile would be safe for use in the tubular magazines of lever-action rifles. I'll be using a receiver sight. I would suggest anyone considering buying a new Marlin first check out several recent reports at marlinowners dot com of potential SAFETY problems as well as ongoing cosmetic/function problems with the new Freedom Group Remington/Marlins (Remlins). Further if you don't care about energy tables. Ask the customer service rep at Martin if this was a common problem with the rifle, he said no , very rare. Im not an idiot. I dont know if they were a closeout deal or what, but they were discounted reasonably (by Cabelas standards). Bullets in a tubular magazine previously could not be pointy because the point of the bullet would ignite the . Competition is always good for industry. Used Marlins arent as common anymore. 338MXLR :: Guns.com It is important to note that large loads are recommended for this gun and not Winchesters. Maybe the young folks wont need them. All of Marlins models should have been put in CAD in under a year, easily. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. SO PLEASE NEVER BUY ONE OF THESE THINGS. When I asked my parents why I didnt get a graduation present, their answer was because youre SUPPOSED to graduate. You can always find one in a gun store. New equipment for these lines has been purchased and is operational. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. LEVERevolution represents a breakthrough in ammo design for lever action rifles and revolvers. Otherwise our weapons wouldnt have worked then and we would have lost the War. Where did you get the 2300 dollar figure ? Personally, Id LOVE a SS .41mag levergun, perhaps to compliment a .41 4 5/8 SS Blackhawk, or even a Vaquero. I wonder if it has to do with the fact they are great copy of the savage rifles. Department: Ammo > Rifle Ammunition > 444 Marlin. Id be concerned about safety. The rifle functioned without a hitch. The action is butter smooth UNLIKE the Marlins. with a few imperfections to the fore-end too.What can I do? . What I got back was A rifle that still bulged cases and after 25 shots the front sight fell off , the loading tube is sloppy in the dove tail( it;s held in place by the forearm) and a screw fell out of the receiver. Marlin 70PSS - For Sale :: Shop Online :: Guns.com The Marlin cant even come close in any way! Getting the drawings and IP is a standard part of any business negotiation. I would personally not buy anything that hasnt already undergone many manufacturing learning cycles. Initially offered in .30-30, .35 Remington, .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin and .45-70 ammunition, the bullets are now available in several other Hornady LEVERevolution loads. But the .348's tube magazine shackled it to blunt bullets that quickly fell behind .30-06 spitzers. Marlin 308 Marlin Express Review and Shooting - Lone Star State Firearms Today we are looking at a new product from Taurus: the Defender 856 TORO. We suspected they would probably try to build the system but we werent too worried. Yes. The equally impressive .308 Marlin Express mimics .308 Win. The barrel has some Marlin markings on it and the MarlinNorth Haven CT. stamp on the left side of the barrel just below the rear sight. But if Remington does get its act together, I wouldnt hesitate to grab another 1894. I stopped subscribing to other gun mags because none of the others are impartial exactly because of their advertising. I documented the entire exchange, and sent it with a letter to the president of FG, notifying him in courteously neutral language that his company had serious CS problems, and it was hurting their reputation. Nothing I have read on blogs is true about my gun. Dave insists he was careful in listing velocities for the new .33 in the 24-inch barrels to be installed by Marlin. If the new cartridge's recoil could be kept below 20 ft. lbs. freedom group is too big, they have avialibility to shut down most gun makers as we know if they decided tootoo scary. To add sizzle to the steak, a "Light Magnum" type load could be given the LeverEvolution treatment. It merely pushed the hammer down part way and then the hammer would get caught in the bolt notch and freeze the action. $2,300 is a bit much for any rifle in that class, truthfully. What shoots a 308 marlin express : r/guns It is a GREAT rifle, and an absolute tack driver.. a consistent sub-MOA performer. This Marlin cycles as would a .30-30. I will test fire it at camp. Please call us (208) 263-6953 . ], and yet improve efficiency. my Ruger M77 .30-06 for deer this fall. Duh. Part of that hard work was recovering from a poorly planned [2010] move from Marlins longstanding manufacturing plant in North Haven,Connecticut, to Remington-operated factories in Ilion, New York, and Mayfield, Kentucky . I like(ed) Marlin Leverguns. He was forced to cock the hammer manually and then work the lever to chamber a round. There will never be another gun built exactly like yours and even if the new ones are built to spec, Theyre now assembly line dimentional drawings to be mass produced. Only time will tell. That is probably the only good news out of sandy hook. At this writing, I'm planning an elk hunt with the .338 Marlin Express. But as it left the factory, it was a gun that left a LOT to be desired, and I can only assume that their QC guy had had a large liquid lunch before checking the batch of rifles that included mine, and he was too drunk to give a crap. Theres a narrow path back to respectability, but without some new blood running the show, the chances of the current jagoffs making the right choices seems very, very slim. For those of you who dont think that is impressive, doing that with 45-70 is kinda like having a catapault that throws 78 Impalas to the same spot a half mile away. My wife happens to like the slightly heavier pull and is not fond of my Savage Mark II with 3lb pull. Are people really buying that many .30-30s to hunt with? Any resemblance between an 1860~1865 Henry and a modern one is limited to them both having levers on the bottom to open and close the bolts and a tubular magazine; The internal bits are completely different, and thats a VERY good thingthe operating pressure on a modern .22LR is much higher than that developed by a black-powder .44 Henry Flat. If it has JM stamped on the barrel then it is a pre-FG Marlin. I dont think its old enough. Theres a 45-70 marlin for sale locally. Introducing the latest products from the worldwide leader in ammunition. SOLD - $529.99. Make sure your search is specific enough to get the correct value. I wanted the big loop to make the rifle easier to use with gloves on. The .25-35 and .30-30 chamberings were added in 1895, and the .32 Winchester Special chambering followed in 1902. I should have paid more attention to the fit and finish. Any experienced (or green) mechanical engineer or technician could see that this manufacturing move was a Freedom Group cluster XXXX from the start. From a manufacturing standpoint, the company has set up a stand-alone Marlin factory within the Ilion plant, with its own designated managers, workforce, and assemblers, people who are committed and invested in the Marlin brand. Such a load might provide a trajectory allowing 250 yard shots without holding over the animal's back, given a bullet BC of .400, and elevate the cartridge out of the "woods rifle" class. They are all beautiful, smooth, and very accurate. took over. I just hope they dont go under. .338 MARLIN EXPRESS .35 REM .357 MAG . That means that either the parts used were out of spec, OR the assembly jig was out of whack, or something. And smoothed out after a couple of hundred rounds. Their Henry original is the rifle they should have designed in the first place, and Id buy one, but not at $2300. Marlin's new Model 1895 in .450 Marlin hits hard indeed inside 200 yards. SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, The Colt Anaconda .44 Rem. We have had Remington bolt guns with sand paper actions, bad finishes, sharp rough machine edges on the outside of the receiver, you name it. By the same note, why did it take them so long to make CAD of the parts? I dont trust any Cerberus-owned company to make a decent product. Don't forget to like, subscribe, friend, and share all my posts. Oh, yes, the cartridge has enough reach to justify a scope. Buy a MARLIN FIREARMS CO 338 MX BlueWalnut 22'' Barrel TRADE see additional info Sorry so long winded. Google Marlin front sight issues you get 100s of complaints.. .. Making the second to 100th gun gets easier and easier. How many parts does an 1894 have? No problem there. Could this be a sign that theyre back on track and better things are on the way? Lever Action Metallic Silhouette a fun and popular shooting sport, and Winchesters Model 94 in .22 Winchester Magnum is a natural choice for this competition. OK, so over the years I loved rifles made by Remington, Bushmaster, and marlin. Its practical effective range on CXP2 game would be limited by its trajectory. Do us a favor, when you come back on line, make nothing but the Model 1894 for about two years. We need every gun company that can stay solvent to remain solvent. Manage Settings .308 MARLIN EXPRESS LEVER ACTION 5 ROUNDS 22 BARREL. And believe it or not, I would RATHER that Marlin started producing fine rifles again like they used to, before they got bought out. Safe to use in tubular magazines, these bullets feature higher ballistic coefficients and deliver dramatically flatter trajectory for increased down range performance. . "And to get the sectional density we want, the bullet would have to be quite heavy.". Hopefully, similar powder technology can be applied to the development of the .338 Marlin Express. Id love to see Marlin get their stuff together and it would be even better if they could become independent. | Someone asked him about the quality problems Ford was having and he said Yup, since we moved some more production (products) to China for more parts our quality has suffered but in a few years it will be great. The Truth About Guns has done its best to honor, continue and build upon the forums tradition of no-holds-barred product reviews.. I managed to get it sighted in eventually using Burris rings and still had to shim. But the BLR, like Winchester's Model 88 and the forgotten Sako Finnwolf, are not traditional lever actions. It took me less than 5 minutes of Googling to determine that the Marlin Express line of guns has been discontinued, and were the only firearms ever factory chambered for .308 Marlin Express. Marlin and Remington is probably run by accountants. .338" (Marlin Express) PRODUCT LINE: FTX . I wonder how long until ammo makers stop producing these two cartridges? The author fired this sub-minute group with a Leupold-scoped Marlin in .338 ME with Hornady ammunition. Thick skin. Maybe they wrote a puff piece for some disclosed reason, such as sponsorship dollars. Thanks for that. Since my season with a Marlin .30-30 a few years ago, I've added several lever-action rifles to my rack. "We re-engineered our 200-grain .338 Winchester Magnum bullet with a thinner jacket to encourage upset at long range. Fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me. I felt so bad for this guy. My brothers was bought new in 1971and my dads was older, lots older, but he kept it in great shape. Now that I have made the necessary repairs to the magazine and forend and improved the sights, I have a pretty darn good general purpose truck gun / deer rifle/ hog-slayer / whatever you want to call it. Theres no way a Marlin employee didnt notice what I noticed when I handled them. It was reintroduced in 2018 and has an MSRP of $999. Did they screw up? Im a retired defense industry engineer and have to agree with you about supplying the drawings. It consistently performs flawlessly & is extremely accurate. Even counting screws and springs, its probably still less than a hundred individual pieces. In 2011 I bought a Marlin 1894c in .357. The BC of the FTX is .430 as opposed to .455 for the SST which for all intents and purposes makes for very little difference in the field. The higher ballistic coefficients of the FTX and MonoFlex bullets produce consistently flatter trajectories than conventional bullets and provide overwhelming downrange terminal performance. The $2300 one was a limited edition. Retained energy at 400 yards for the 200-grain .338 ME and 180-grain .30-06 bullets are essentially the same at 1,760 ft-lbs. Need Help? Equipped with a William's receiver sight, the new Marlin in .338 ME handles like a saddle gun. There is also lots of information on-line on how to replace/repair this wear part, and of course gunsmiths all know how to replace the worn part. It's functioning now but the taste left in my mouth of how bad it was and the grief it caused in the field still remains. The Marlin name is at least as strong. The case of the .376 Steyr was given a thicker web for added strength, then necked down to .338. The filters provided below are based on information received from manufacturers and/or suppliers and may be incomplete. My nephew has it now, he makes that gun a 3 generation gun. It is one of the all-time great deer rifles, and anyone should be proud to own one. Henrys rifles will not function for SASS style shooting. The rifle is already in the rack a standard Marlin 1895 with two-thirds magazine. This was not my first bad experience with AAC the first being when the ratchet on that suppressor flew off while shooting it in a rural environment, which fortunately did not result in a baffle strike.