She was 17. It's strange that they posted it as the results pretty much disproved everything her supporters were saying Then again that entire farce was strange LOL. EDIT NOVEMBER 1 2017: GINGER'S LIST HAS BEEN UPDATED TO 142 PAPERS. It's tragic, but I can see why her parents refuse to accept that Jahi's dead. What the mom is doing is not only disgusting but it's dishonorable to her daughter who passed. Just my opinion. Please enable it to take advantage of the complete set of features! Her case gained international attention as her mother fought a legal battle to keep her on life support. Jahi' s family was used and is now allowing themselves to be used for financial gain. I have kids, I get it, how far are you willing to fight to keep your kid a"live".. If you don't like it, feel free to fuck off.2) There have been exactly -0- cases of brain death that have recovered in the history of mankind. By Rachel Aviv January 29, 2018 For the past four years, Jahi. However, let me make this very clear: no one in the history of humankind has anyone who was properly diagnosed as brain dead ever recovered any function. and if so, can the state step in and ask them to stop funding unless proof is provided that Jahi is indeed alive? I address this question in the FAQ. They all need it - the mom and the siblings in particular. Clipboard, Search History, and several other advanced features are temporarily unavailable. Thank you. I read about Nicholas Coke who was born with most of his brain missing and the parents said they had to give him a dozen doses of medication every day to keep him from having seizures and other problems. Somebody on the internet was able to undo all the photoshop and reveal the actual photo underneath revealing the horrible state shes in. Jahi was 13 in December 2013 when she entered UCSF Benioff Childrens Hospital Oakland for surgery to correct sleep apnea. "It was like he thought we were dirt.". I apologise, I didn't get your point. Ripoff Report | Nailah Winkfield C/O Gofundme Review - Internet I watched the video. the best a person could do is speculate; but overall, it is very unusual for a brain dead person to be undead for as long as Jahi has. Jahi McMath: Lessons Learned - American Academy of Pediatrics Its safe to assume theres a reason. They might make a good living prepping bodies for an open casket funeral. doi: 10.1002/hast.962. Thirteen days is more than enough time for the brain to die. I also want to thank the good doctor for keeping us informed. I watched the video maybe three times, because I thought I missed it the first time. This comment has been removed by the author. I understand Jahi suffered a huge amount of blood loss leading to her heart not beating. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since we're talking here about non-invasive tests which cannot possibly harm the patient. Rachel Swan is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. . Four and a half years since she was pronounced dead at age 13 by the Alameda County coroner's office, Oakland teen Jahi McMath will be buried at a cemetery in Hayward, bringing some emotional . In mot other cases my experience has been that families do not want to prolong the situation - in this case the McMath's are again an exception. Either they rule to let the brain death determination stand or perhaps order a complete clinical brain death exam to settle it once and for all. All videos related to her will pop up. This is how Jahi McMath's grandmother, Sandra, describes having been treated by one of the doctors at the Oakland's Children Hospital ICU. This is a corpse that is showing signs of decomposition. For the exact reason that she is brain dead so the body sends no signals. No movement whatsoever, yet everyone one the Jahi Facebook pages got all excited that this was somehow demonstrative of her healing. While her brain has decreased in size proven by MRI done by the family it is not the same as a water filled balloon. there is no way in HELL that family could or would get the death cert reversed. You can see the photos here: http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com/post/91275477091/mother-of-the-year-41017-i-have-been-out-of. I realize the dead salmon study I link to was done back in 2009 as kind of a lark but since then has there been more reliable research done regarding how useful fMRI would be as an ancillary test when it comes to diagnosing brain death? It will be interesting to see if the court, after reviewing this latest expert testimony outlined here, will grant that motion. The parents know what they are doing my feelings go out to the siblings. In: StatPearls [Internet]. except for the fact I wouldn't want to waste usable organs, I would say they could do a study of that nature on me. The only people I've seen making that claim are the ones claiming Jahi is alive and that her brain hasn't liquefied like everyone claimed, which I have seen only a handful of times, but never by a medical professional. Who knows how much, if any, brain structure is left nearly 3 years later. Here's the link to the private FB page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/419861641476242/There isn't much there. The only gofundme page was when this story broke, to raise $$$ for transport to NJ. I saw a photo of a younger relative kissing the corpse. Could you please provide links to where you read about almost every medical professional had spoke of our brain liquefying soon etcand that there was no way this would go on beyond months. This was the question I asked Mrs. Bastard when she was pregnant with our first child and wanted EDIT: New and improved version, now with 83 of your favourite myths. The latest photo and Jahi is so sad,they have just about blurred her whole face out. A 13-year-old patient named Jahi McMath was determined to be dead by neurologic criteria following cardiopulmonary arrest and resuscitation at a hospital in Oakland, California. "[13][54][55][56][58][59], In March 2015, McMath's family filed a malpractice lawsuit against Children's Hospital Oakland and Frederick Rosen, the surgeon who performed McMath's surgery. Photographs displayed on the altar showed Jahi as a little girl, with round cheeks and a saucy ponytail. But it's an inevitable end,. I always had the impression from Jahi's family's accounts that she had basically "bled out". The expert statement "there is absolutely no possibility she will recover" is consistent with what we know- but is an opinion and is challengeable because we do not have a lot of experience with testing patients who have had long term somatic survival. If they appeared that way, they were just chapped. At what point does the state say 'okay, enough is enough. Why does the state keep paying for this? - Internet. I don't have any problems with a person doing that - but the odds of getting the right person are quite slim. Alan shewmon does not recognize brain death, while still admitting that a brain dead patient will never recover from being brain dead. And no I don't think Jahi McMAth will ever wake up. Nailah isnt a qualified assessor. It's nothing to be ashamed of. He's, umZaphod Beeblebrox: Yeah?Ford Prefect: He's spending a year dead for tax reasons. The body decays once oxygen is stopped from perfusing tissue.These results as noted by the true experts indicated that she truly is dead. Jahi died on June 18, 2018, from abdominal complications. Doctor Bastard,Can you please provide a medical explanation for that mountain of blankets they always have covering her? [3][4][5][6][7][8] In October 2014, the McMath family attorney made the unprecedented request that Jahi McMath's brain death declaration be overturned. In your case, it was the surgery that caused a hole and a leak.The bone wax was used to plug the whole. All we ever see of Jahi are photos of a contracted, rotting hand here, or a foot there. I also find it funny the psychos come here and insult people. This is unhealthy for them. Someone should recommend the family to a therapist if they are not already receiving some form of counseling. I'm going to make a fallacy argument, BMI is based off a military young white male, fast forward 50 years and we come to find out minorities and females have different body structures and they don't always fit in the parameters of the original BMI.. It was hoped these procedures would provide improved airflow during her sleep at night. Is Death Real? New Experiments Raise Important Questions On - Yahoo She is brain dead. I have pulled some gross things from people's vocal cords during codes, but if you got clots past the cords it would be very difficult to get them out. If she's certified as disabled the family can get disability payments, food aid, housing aid and assistance with utilities.Plus any donations people might give.--Loudmouth. I think the family needs to have a psych evaluation. So was she almost all the way dead is the question, can death be more or less than we originally thought of by medical standards that can be considered outdated.. At the funeral, she said her case should serve as a lesson to other families. Not that I'm going anywhere soon, but forget the jumper cables and let me go. Darn autocorrect on the phone. This is because they know of the case, not because of Facebook campaigns. Her stepfather also has at least one child (featured in a wedding day photo) and I can't imagine she's happy that her father has devoted this much time and attention to her dead stepsister.Or maybe she's good with it but I would be surprised if it were the case. Hi Ken.Would that make granny culpable for Jahi's death?Would it be negligent homicide?Could it possibly even be Murder given she should have known better and would have known or suspected the consequences given she was not qualified and neither was Jahi?If so could we see mamanails suing granny? Of course if this is true the nurse will deny it during litigation. Jahi McMath was a 13-year-old girl who was declared brain dead on December 12, 2013, after a hemorrhagic complication following complex oropharyngeal surgery. Just go over to Yoube and enter Jahi's name in the search engine. Ken, thanks. I also lost a child and I don't know that it would have brought me any comfort at all to watch her grow up, unconscious, in a hospital bed. If it was purely a medical question the whole case should have stopped there.But it didn't and so there is a legal question and that essentially becomes -is the diagnosis of brain death still correct. She sold her house in Oakland and quit her job to care for Jahi, who she said could move her fingers in response to commands and even began menstruating. [40][41][42] The family moved the girl to an undisclosed location where a tracheostomy was performed and a feeding tube was inserted. Lessons from the Jahi McMath Case. I doubt any lawyer would take that lawsuit, since there is nothing substantial to be gained by it; and I also don't see anyone being so cold hearted as to actually file charges against Granny; but it does put CHO in the position that they, now that the records have been unsealed, can say "we told them to do this, and they chose to do that, instead. At a certain point claiming ignorance isnt a viable excuse you are being malicious. Ok, that makes sense. Thanks Samantha. Jahi, who would have turned 18 this year, lay in a casket painted in her favorite lavender hue. The ones who a suffering the most are Jahi's siblings. PMC Plus, it creates a dangerous precedent which others may (and have) irrationally follow. I'm cynical enough to believe that the claims of Jahi breathing over the ventilator, playing the piano, drawing, and now even giving a thumb's up sign have to do with upcoming court hearings to determine whether or not Jahi has actually come back to life. Honestly, I'm sick of the McMath debacle and wish the scam fam would go away. I'll answer this question with another question: What is happening in Syria isn't affecting you, so why should you care? Please post the video link so we can see the miracle of a corpse trying to breathe. If you can find the time I would love to hear your professional opinion. But there are cases of prolonged somatic support, and no one claims otherwise.There are many cases of comatose people waking up, and some have reported memories of their comas to varying degrees. It's time someone evaluate momma and get her the help she needs. I believe the only reason this case is debatable is because people still mistake Brain Death with a coma. . Insurance isn't going to pay after a diagnoses of brain death. If that exam verifies that she meets brain death criteria it's anyone's guess what might happen afterward. Plus all the past litigation ..It's so very sad as said, that one deranged Mother who obviously needs desperately psych care, didn't and isn't receiving it, and thus places everyone around her in limbo because of it; all somehow thinking it's "God's will". Jahi McMath was diagnosed brain dead on 12/12/2013 in strict accordance with both the pediatric and adult Guidelines, reinforced by 4 isoelectric electroencephalograms and a radionuclide scan showing intracranial circulatory arrest. If Jahi has any siblings they are the real victims. The vast majority of the organs, including the digestive tract, function completely independent of the brain. I lived in Southampton, Pa and the Schiavo family is from that area. On work Saturday my guys were discussing life support, they started using "pull the plug", my call receiver had a horrified look.. Teresa was not brain dead, and no one on either side contended that she was. There is nothing in McMath's medical records from Saint Peter's University Hospital that would cause a reputable expert in pediatric or adult brain death to question or reconsider the accepted brain death assessments of Dr. Robin Shanahan, Dr. Robert Heidersbach, and Dr. Paul Fisher. What Does It Mean to Die? | The New Yorker I'll pay my .50! Motel Styx: we'll keep the respirator on for you. Her mom made another video and this time it shows she is trying to breath on her own can you explain that one. A video recording of an ice cube touched to the foot of Jahi McMath has been distributed. Pennsylvania Child Abuse Recognition and Reporting. some versions also have it that Jahi was not supposed to be speaking and that the family was posting on social media that she was talking and laughing. Does she menstruate like a normal 16 year old female? [14] Additionally, the lawsuit alleges that McMath bled from approximately 7:30p.m. to 12:35a.m.,[14] that a doctor said [expletive], her heart stopped when he arrived hours after the family said they requested a doctor,[60] and that the family was given conflicting information from nurses regarding how to care for McMath's bleeding. Jaci started menstruating in 2014 according to Dr. Alan Shewmon. and no amount of artificial help will stop Jahi's body from decomposing. New Jersey had the facts when they admitted Jahi to Medicaid, including the facts about the death certificate. The argument "it can't happen because it has never happened, except that we've never been in a position to actually look" strikes me as circular. I HAVE ADDED ALL THE NEW ONES IN ORDER. I pray closure for everyone including Jahi. Powered by. Her family did not agree that she was dead and refused to allow her ventilator to be removed. I don't know. Stories from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath updatesort of Her body can go on like this for years, as long as her pressure sores are not allowed to get infected. Truly Reconciling the Case of Jahi McMath - PubMed video of Jahi supposedly moving her foot to command, video was posted of Jahi supposedly breathing over the ventilator, 124 (now 144) (now now 157) papers that DO NOT prove vaccines cause autism. I agree that advanced testing will probably not settle anything legally or emotionally in the case of Jahi's mother. we are not liable for what they did. Without an autopsy what kind of information can be gleaned regarding cause of death? What the courts decide here is something completely different, and to a certain extent divorced from medicine.I'm sorry if I did not make that clear. Revisiting Death: Implicit Bias and the Case of Jahi McMath @emcee this has been on my mind since the case started. The death certificate was signed, but never filed. The lawsuit, let's not forget lawyers take 40 % off the top, there is taxes to be paid & a lot of addt bills that accumulated from those shenanigan doctors, that surround them. I specifically told my daughter, when the doctor says it's over, she'd better pull the plug fast without any second thoughts. my opinion would be that she is. I think they should proceed with resting.Cory Franklin M.D. The doctors they are not God.. Cory. As the good Doctor has written in this blog many organs can function without the help of the brain. They have a Facebook page set up to accept donations, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a GoFundMe and other crowdsource panhandling going on here.This family is not hopefully ignorant. Horribly swollen. Time will tell. They've gotten past that and are now using her corpse to profit. As a social worker, I'm faced with gray areas constantly, and one thing that tends to work well in examining a tough matter is the golden rule, an all-too . As creepy as this is, I hope researchers are getting some access to Jahi since this is such a unique situation and opportunity to see what happens in a case like this. . PS Doc, I didn't get the name but using clues here about the person being 4 years old and on the vent for 20 years I was able to find the case study of the person. I would also be curious if the family members are getting paid by the government to take care of Jahi. She also has an older sister. ;-) Ohhe's got a blogwell there ya go. I hope I am clear in my wording. Nope. In February, they announced that shes drawing and trying to write. The Alameda County Coroner . [10][12] At that time, Dolan also filed documents asking that the Alameda County Superior Court reverse their finding of brain death in the case. It was brownish in color and was seen on the bottom sheet where she was lying. Trust me I am well aware that neither of those patients were brain dead.But the principle in Bland and Schiavo applies here.That is - to learn more about the brain in traumatic, anoxic, and degenerative situations, when there is long-term somatic survival we should be doing more imaging, not less.The issue I am addressing is not whether JAhi is PVS- the issue is what is going on in the central nervous system in a patient who was declared brain dead more than three years ago, yet survives somatically.This is isn't a routine diagnostic issue, nor is it a management issue for our purposes. Dom DiTolla is a homophobe and a meathead who discriminates against gays Tucson Arizona. Then months later her mother put up a photo that looked "retouched" to me. I just now found your page. The brain stem auditory evoked potentials test performed at University Hospital on September 26, 2014 . 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